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作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-17 09:27     標題: bones problem

hi,

one of my cats started to have problem while walking

vet said it's scottish fold's bone problem ... he's now 11 and doc gave him the "bone injection" (needs to take every week for 4 weeks) ... i let him take the Synoquin Cat after the 3rd injection last week ... but his problem is still much the same ... sometimes seems a bit bit better ... sometimes even worst ...

would like to seek some advice / experience fr the cat owners who have the same problem here ...

thanks a lot.
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-17 11:31

醫生講佢既情況係點呀? VET 幫佢打既係骨膠原針, 打完頭4針, 之後應該每個月打一針.. 佢既情況係點你可以說多點嗎? 走路時有咩問題? 一拐拐還是不願走路? 明顯走路少了? 有沒有手腳有增生??
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-17 12:15

係loh!!!我都想問,我貓貓食左3個weeks的葡萄糖安,一直都好好啦!開始有改善,但琴晚又覺得佢有d腳仔痛,係因為坐太耐無行 (因為屋企裝修,所以日間只可以坐係房,無咩路行。) 還是病情係會大上大落架?
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-17 13:55

查實食咗SUPPLEMENT 有好轉唔等同佢走路時一定好正常的. 以波子做例子, 佢到現在走路都是拐拐吓的, 食咗SUPPLEMENT 同藥唔代表個病可以根治到.. 只係舒緩病情同埋減輕佢既痛楚.. 最重要係佢走路時既意慾有冇少咗. 若然佢少行咗, 唔願郁.. 成日瞓係度, 冇胃口等.. 咁就好可能係佢痛到唔想郁.. 但相反佢都照行照走的, 只是走路姿勢不太一樣的話, 未必需要太担心.. 骨骼病係真係會影响到佢哋走路既..
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-17 14:51

我見到佢有時拐下拐下,覺得佢好痛,好辛苦,我個心好赤赤痛!佢比以前未病發時少左行,但現在都會行下,都會玩,都會食!

原來仍然有少少拐下就要心足??我以為可以一d都唔痛,行得好好!心痛死啦!
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-17 15:04

佢哋有呢個病真係好多時冇辦法可以回復到病發前咁, 因為始終佢啲軟骨骨質化咗, 就好似骨刺咁, 所以一定同佢冇事之前會有分別.. .. 所以我們一直鼓吹唔好繁殖同購買摺耳, 就係因為呢啲遺傳病真係會跟足佢哋一世亦冇得根治.. 我們可以幫到佢哋既就盡量在照顧上做好點. 雖然佢哋走路唔好睇啫, 但照顧得佢好, 佢哋都會活得開心既. 就好似波子咁, 所以大家都要保持正能量, 唔好放棄..
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-17 16:03

今日係另一個post見到有人話$500領養摺耳貓,我都留言,求d人唔好繁殖摺耳,見到自己同貓貓要受苦,真係好明白果種迫切牲。
作者: stevielck    時間: 2011-5-17 16:51

求繁殖D人無用架,佢地為搵錢乜都做得出c~~32~~

我地只有教育D人唔好買摺耳貓, 無需求就無供應架啦!
作者: floratam    時間: 2011-5-18 00:13

食supplement其實無咁快見效架, 每隻貓體質唔同, 可能快見效, 可能慢, 亦有可能無效要換第二隻, 真係要有心理準備同耐性去等同觀察, 如果食咗supplement兩個月都無改善就要考慮換葯或者加其他supplement。有依個病真係長期作戰, 如果貓地痛得犀利, 咁就要問醫生考慮食止痛葯喇
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-18 11:24

其實單單靠我觀察佢行路情況,能完全反映佢對藥的反應嗎?還是要比e生摸骨 or 照X ray??

佢已經好少一拐一拐啦,但有時又會有d痛,唔至到痛到吊手,唔行 or跌落地。應該唔至到痛到要食止痛藥。
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-18 11:27

At least想買貓的人,見到我留言,繁殖D人,盤生意做唔成,希望d人真係唔好用動物黎賺錢啦!
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-18 11:36

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原帖由 悅同 於 2011-5-18 11:24 發表
其實單單靠我觀察佢行路情況,能完全反映佢對藥的反應嗎?還是要比e生摸骨 or 照X ray??

佢已經好少一拐一拐啦,但有時又會有d痛,唔至到痛到吊手,唔行 or跌落地。應該唔至到痛到要食止痛藥。
其實你見佢少咗拐咗咁即係啲SUPPLEMENT 有效, 咁當然都唔會完全止得晒. 因為仲有好多外在因素會影响佢哋既病情, 就好似人有風濕痛咁, 返風落雨會痛咁囉. 天氣唔好佢哋啲關節係會差啲架. 同埋呢佢哋瞓醒時頭幾步係行得差啲, 行順咗呢就好啲既.
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-18 13:06

係呀!坐得太耐,頭幾步行得好痛架!我隻貓仲係bb,已經好似老人家咁!陰公!

之前日日開風扇比佢,一黎裝修有味,二黎怕佢熱,之後好似有d鼻水,立刻唔敢開黎直吹住佢。怕佢傷風。到底係我太緊張,定係真係唔係幾好?因為你地話摺耳好易有貓感冒。
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-18 14:13

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原帖由 悅同 於 2011-5-18 13:06 發表
係呀!坐得太耐,頭幾步行得好痛架!我隻貓仲係bb,已經好似老人家咁!陰公!

之前日日開風扇比佢,一黎裝修有味,二黎怕佢熱,之後好似有d鼻水,立刻唔敢開黎直吹住佢。怕佢傷風。到底係我太緊張,定係真係唔係幾 ...
唔好吹用風扇吹佢呀, 佢哋天生抵抗力弱, 特別有遺傳病既小朋友, 很容易傷風流鼻水架. 你開風扇最好向上吹, 慢風, 唔好直接吹到佢哋, 就算你開冷氣都最好KEEP 住22-25度內, 因為佢哋好易凍親架.
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-18 14:55

咁沖涼會唔會凍親?我打算等天熱d同佢沖個暖水涼。

我果日見到有d鼻水之後,立刻無再開風扇,佢已經無再流鼻水啦!真係要小心d處理。佢上年冬天都無病過,無流過鼻水架!我諗果日吹得太正啦!風扇係正佢訓覺張大班椅頭頂。
作者: stevielck    時間: 2011-5-18 16:18

唔好沖涼啊, 其實貓貓真係唔需要沖涼架!
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-18 16:42

啲毛真係覺得唔爽身先幫佢哋沖啦.. 沖涼可以的, 但一定要夠暖先囉. 同埋沖完之後, 一定要用風筒幫佢吹乾先得.. 風扇真係唔可以直吹佢哋架. 佢哋底子差.. 氣溫真係要小心呢.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-19 11:01

just realize so many replies already ...

he's going to have the 4th injection today ... taking the supplement for ard 5 days ... however, i don't know if it's due to the supplement or just coincident ... he throws up for a few times in the last few days ... i gave him hairball control for a few days already ... see if he still throw up or not today ...

after the injection and supplement, i think he's walking even worst ... a bit like "jump walk" cos to avoid the painful leg(s) to have too much pressure to the ground

he walks less than b4 but still willing to jump up to my bed (i put a box for him to jump up more easily) ... eating normal ...

what i'm thinking is if he's not the soft bones tissue problem but maybe bones changed shape or what ... i don't know ... i will ask the doc today ...

thanks a lot …
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-19 11:07

有冇幫佢照過XRAY 呀, 咁先睇得清楚啲關節既問題架.. 同埋呢.. 若然佢仲有痛或者痛得利害, 可能要考慮食止痛藥, 你再同VET商量吓吖..近排係換毛季節, 嘔毛既情況係會多架. 我啲貓呢排都有呢. 唔洗太過担心既. 不過, 成日都嘔同埋都只係嘔水既就最好CHECK 清楚, 可能有其他毛病.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-19 11:28

yes, i think x-ray can see the problem clearly ...

since i went to 2 vets for this problem, one vet said pain killer can't take for long term for cats ... another vet said their case need to take pain kill for long term ... so, i get confused ...

usually, if he throw up so much like this, he will be fine after i gave him hairball control for a few days ... he will throw up lots of food / water ...
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-19 14:15

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原帖由 melbby 於 2011-5-19 11:01 發表
just realize so many replies already ...

he's going to have the 4th injection today ... taking the supplement for ard 5 days ... however, i don't know if it's due to the supplement or just coincid ...
我貓貓初初食左止痛藥,消炎藥and葡萄糖胺,都唔見到有止痛,但過左兩個幾星期開始無咁痛。好感恩佢都算對葡萄糖胺有正面的反應。都算少左一拐一拐,又少左吊手,and人形坐。但都唔會好似之前咁鍾意玩,佢跳上無問題,但跳落就好痛,陰公初初跳落果時,成隻貓跌落地。見到我就眼淚流出黎!依加無咁誇張啦,進步好多!又學識係sofa行樓梯落地。

Vet只肯開3-4日止痛藥 and消炎藥比佢。

我都帶佢睇左兩個vet,第一vet都唔識e,一d幫助都無,之後搵到骨科e生。佢就幫到貓貓。
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-19 15:50

人形坐 is not a good sign ??

i don't know if he's allergy to the supplement as he keeps throw up in these days after started the pills ... he throws up a lot again this pm ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-19 16:02

大部份的西藥止痛藥都不應該長期服用, 因為長期服食都會影响肝, 腎功能的.. 但問題係患有骨骼遺傳病既小朋友, 很多時都要服用止痛藥. 所以選擇止痛藥方面真係要好小心. 我波子而家都長期食緊止痛藥, 其中一隻係西藥, 但因怕有副作用, 所以服用的量很少, 叧外還有服用一些天然的止痛藥方, 如順勢療法的HOMEOPET JOINT RELIEF, 草本滴劑ALFAFA-YUCCA, 同埋佢哋食開嗰隻GLYCO FLEX 小食除咗有葡萄糖胺, 軟骨素成份外, 都有一隻叫做MSM 的消炎止痛的成份, 這些都幫助到小朋友止痛..
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-19 16:11

since he has bladder stone history ... so, i'm not dare to give anything new ... even the Synoquin Cat ... i only take it after vet confirmed it won't affect stone problem ...

so, ur supplements can help ur cat ?
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-19 17:37

暫時波子既情況都好穩定.. 其實我每次都會同大家講, 決定俾SUPPLEMENT 前都最好問咗VET先, 因為每個小朋友的病況都唔同, 我們都不是獸醫, 只能同大家分享自身的經驗, 所以我們給與的意見只能作為參考, 我俾波子食既SUPPLEMENT部份係VET 開既, 部份係問咗VET 話成份啱同OK我先俾波子食既..
作者: 悅同    時間: 2011-5-19 21:10

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原帖由 melbby 於 2011-5-19 15:50 發表
人形坐 is not a good sign ??

i don't know if he's allergy to the supplement as he keeps throw up in these days after started the pills ... he throws up a lot again this pm ...
http://forum.hksfsickcats.com/thread-137-1-1.html

手仔腳仔痛,所以人形坐可以卸左d力。
作者: 小小小特警    時間: 2011-5-20 01:36

妹豬囡之前打骨針,打頭一支同最後一支(第四支)後,都有嘔 (佢分別嘔了一次)的情況,所以打完個最一個月療程,到打每月一支的針的時候,我同VET講妹豬的情況,佢話如果係咁,妹豬唔適合再打骨針了,所以我想你要同VET講下,進一步問下佢意見。
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 09:41     標題: 回復 26# 的帖子

oic ... i really didn't notice it's becos the bone problem ... my husband always said they are getting "human" when they sit like this ...
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 09:45

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原帖由 小小小特警 於 2011-5-20 01:36 發表
妹豬囡之前打骨針,打頭一支同最後一支(第四支)後,都有嘔 (佢分別嘔了一次)的情況,所以打完個最一個月療程,到打每月一支的針的時候,我同VET講妹豬的情況,佢話如果係咁,妹豬唔適合再打骨針了,所以我想你要同VE ...
i talked to the vet yesterday ... doc wonder if the throw up is due to the Synoquin Cat ... so, i now let him take it with wet food together (open the capsule and take the powder out) as i feed him directly b4 ...

he took the last (4th) injection yesterday ... i told doc that he seems not much improvements ... doc said his problem can't be cured but just to prolong the problem ... he still suggests me to give him the Synoquin Cat for some time first n see how's his progress later ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-20 11:00

佢哋個特別坐姿就係因為腳仔痛, 所以咁樣坐令到腳仔冇咁受力囉. 睇就好似好可愛, 查實有苦自己知囉. 係呀. 佢哋呢個病係冇得根治, 只有靠SUPPLEMENT 幫佢哋延緩病情希望唔好差落去..  SUPPLEMENT 一定要食架喇, 若SYNOQUIN CAT 佢唔啱既試吓第二隻啦.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 11:20

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原帖由 doriswong 於 2011-5-20 11:00 發表
佢哋個特別坐姿就係因為腳仔痛, 所以咁樣坐令到腳仔冇咁受力囉. 睇就好似好可愛, 查實有苦自己知囉. 係呀. 佢哋呢個病係冇得根治, 只有靠SUPPLEMENT 幫佢哋延緩病情希望唔好差落去..  SUPPLEMENT  ...
yes ... the sitting posture looks v cute but the story behind is so sad ... too bad that i just know it today ...

usually, how long will u see the improvement after taking the supplement ? ... i started since last weekend ... i m now giving him once a day n see if his throw up will stop first ...

so, i can start giving the supplement to my other scottish fold even they don't have the walking problem, right ? as they started the "human sitting" for long time ago ...

thanks a lot for all the help in this forum ... !!!
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-20 11:35

類同既SUPPLEMENT 有好多種類, 有時都要試邊隻啱自己既貓貓食.. 同埋SUPPLEMENT 唔會話好快即時見效, 起碼都2-3個week... 你其他既貓貓有冇走路有問題呀, 佢哋幾大年紀? 若然冇行路問題年紀又不大既又唔需要俾SUPPLEMENT 佢哋食住既, 其實我哋都唔建議大家隨便冇事都俾SUPPLEMENT, 有時食多咗唔代表係好架. 坐姿只係一個表徵嚟, 會咁坐既貓又唔一定有病既, 或者咁講, 有遺傳病既摺耳咁樣坐既時間係較其他貓多好多囉.

你試咗而家呢隻SUPPLEMENT 先, 你都可以參考吓我哋團購內一隻叫做GLYCO FLEX 既SUPPLEMENT, 佢同Synoquin Cat 係同類型既SUPPLEMENT, 我哋都有介紹啲貓友用, 反應都唔錯架, 我自己既貓都食緊.. 同埋呢隻係小食裝, 唔需要餵藥咁餵, 小朋友會當咗係小食咁嚟食既. 起碼食得開心.  你可以參考一下或者問吓獸醫既意見... 若然食呢隻就唔洗食Synoquin Cat, 記住啊, SUPPLEMENT 唔好過量, 若然俾多過一隻SUPPLEMENT 就要對清楚啲成份, 唔好重複, 食多咗唔代表好..
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 12:06

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原帖由 doriswong 於 2011-5-20 11:35 發表
類同既SUPPLEMENT 有好多種類, 有時都要試邊隻啱自己既貓貓食.. 同埋SUPPLEMENT 唔會話好快即時見效, 起碼都2-3個week... 你其他既貓貓有冇走路有問題呀, 佢哋幾大年紀? 若然冇行路問題年紀又不大既又唔 ...
my other 2 scottish fold are also 10 yrs o ... one of them have the bone problem syptoms like his tail blended ... x-ray also shown that his back bone has many "bone 次" ...

the other looks ok but when i examine his legs like the vet did (see if the joints are soft enough) ... not all joints are soft ...

so, is that GLYCO FLEX is more common than Synoquin Cat ... if GLYCO FLEX comes like snack ... it's v good wor ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-20 14:33

其實若果GLYCO FLEX 可以代替SYNOQUIN CAT, 你可以睇下呢度.. http://forum.hksfsickcats.com/thread-952-1-1.html
佢既成份有青口素, 葡萄糖胺, 軟骨素等..呢啲都係幫助佢哋生長返軟骨既重要原素...  你可以將佢同SYNOQUIN CAT 既成份做個對比.. 同埋呢.. GLYCO FLEX 有分, I , II 同埋III..  佢哋分別係II 同埋III 多咗隻MSM 既成份, MSM 係FOR 消炎止痛既. 所以若然貓貓有拐腳既情況就可以選II 或III , 若然病情輕微腳仔唔多痛既, 揀 I 就OK喇. 你去睇下啲DETAILS 啦. 咁呢隻SUPPLEMENT 小食我介紹俾啲貓友, 大部份貓貓都會鐘意食, 只有很小數唔食, 咁佢都可以揀藥丸裝既..
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 15:30

引用:
原帖由 doriswong 於 2011-5-20 14:33 發表
其實若果GLYCO FLEX 可以代替SYNOQUIN CAT, 你可以睇下呢度.. http://forum.hksfsickcats.com/thread-952-1-1.html
佢既成份有青口素, 葡萄糖胺, 軟骨素等..呢啲都係幫助佢哋生長返軟骨既重要原素...   ...
thanks a lot ... seems vet usually recommend Synoquin Cat instead ... at least the 2 vets i visited ...  

then, is MSM a medicine or it's an natural ingredient to kill the pain ?

however, i can only ask the vet if they can take GLYCO FLEX as they have bladder stone history ... !?
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-20 15:40

好多時啲VET 都RECOMMEND SYNOQUIN CAT既, 又或者只開葡萄糖胺, 青口素等。。 GLYCO FLEX我哋都係自己訂返嚟做團購, 不過我俾VET 睇過話成份冇問題都啱食,而自家貓食過又真係效果唔錯, 所以先介紹俾大家。。 

MSM是甚麼?
Methylsulfonylmethane,簡稱為MSM,它不是藥物, 是一種營養素, 是有機的硫磺,人體關節內的軟骨素硫酸、硬蛋白硫酸都是MSM。MSM能有效緩解關節炎症和疼痛,並且安全無毒副作用;而對其他肌肉和骨骼的失調也有效用。主要功效:有效鎮痛並且安全,經常被用於類風濕關節炎、退化性骨關節炎、纖維肌肉痛以及其他各種炎症和痛症;MSM亦能有效改善過敏症。對維護皮膚、頭髮及指甲的健康,更是一種不可或缺的營養素。有效鎮痛並且安全,經常被用於類風濕關節炎、退化性骨關節炎、纖維肌肉痛以及其他各種炎症和痛症;MSM亦能有效改善過敏症。對維護皮膚、頭髮及指甲的健康,更是一種不可或缺的營養素。
此外,亦有用於改善便秘、控制胃酸、打鼾、軟化傷痕組織和減輕肌肉痙攣症狀等。
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-20 16:20     標題: 回復 36# 的帖子

then, MSM sounds good ...

i will ask the vet later if Synoquin Cat no use ...

thanks a lot ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-20 17:23

同埋呢止痛藥方面, 你都可以參考一下我們的草本團購. 那些都是天然的草本滴劑.. 都很安全的.. http://forum.hksfsickcats.com/thread-986-1-1.html
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-21 23:20     標題: 回復 38# 的帖子

唔該晒 ... !!
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-23 14:07

Hi doris,

I read some of the posts in the website abt. “give hand” = bone problem

So, “give hand” = put up their hand and “fing” once or twice and then put down again
Is it the case ? as I saw my cats will have this problem too

I tried to give my 2nd cat the synoquin last evening as I know he has problem too (blended tail / abnormal nails / bone “chi” on his back bones)

However, for my 3rd cat, I don’t know if his problem is serious or mild while I can’t give him synoquin (to mix with wet food) since he has sensitive tummy and easy to get diarrhea … so, I’m thinking to buy gylco flex as it can feed as snack … is it easy to find in pet shop / vet ?

Many thanks again …
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-23 14:11

香港我未見過有零售噃. 不過我剛訂咗少量貨, 等返咗會放係特賣場, 都係諗住俾啲未買過但有需要既貓友可以試吓, 太約2個WEEK左右會返貨, 你可以試吓.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-23 15:24     標題: 回復 41# 的帖子

thanks a lot ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-23 16:41

引用:
原帖由 melbby 於 2011-5-23 14:07 發表
Hi doris,

I read some of the posts in the website abt. “give hand” = bone problem

So, “give hand” = put up their hand and “fing” once or twice and then put down again
Is it the case ? as ...
吊手仔呢, 係其中一個病徵, 但有啲正常貓都間中有吊起隻手既行為, 但就冇佢哋咁頻密囉. 我會建議你試吓俾草本同埋GLYCO FLEX 佢哋試吓, 呢2 隻都好安全既, 同埋好多小鬥士都試咗覺得好, 當然最好係問咗VET 意見先啦..
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-23 17:05     標題: 回復 43# 的帖子

thanks for ur reply ...
yes ... 吊手仔 ... v good description ...
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 11:31

Hi doris,

I found that u have diff kinds of supplement for their bone’s problem …
The glyco flex, Seatone, homeopet …
Taking all of them will give the best result ?
Or I should try one by one ?

I did want to try them all out but what I m worrying is their bladder stone history … don’t know if the supplement contains too much minerals and the crystal/stone will come back … I will give them water by syringe tube every day n try to dilute their urine in order to avoid the formation of the crystal

For my vet, I tried to get some supplements for them to take a look when my cat has crystal/stone a few yrs ago … but they won’t suggest taking supplement as they don’t know if the supplement will increase the risk for crystal/stone again …

My cat is now taking synoquin am+pm … his case didn’t get worst but still walking no good … I put the powder in the wet food and no more throw up problem now …
I also giving it to my other cat to try out once a day … I know he has bone’s problem too but he’s walking normal, then, he should start a course (am+pm) or just once a day is ok ?

Thanks a lot again …
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-27 11:55

引用:
原帖由 melbby 於 2011-5-27 11:31 發表
Hi doris,

I found that u have diff kinds of supplement for their bone’s problem …
The glyco flex, Seatone, homeopet …
Taking all of them will give the best result ?
Or I should try one by o ...
青口素係對重生軟骨有很大的幫助, VET 亦說很安全的, HOMEOPET係一些有機天然材料生產既天然止痛劑, 都可以放心使用. 你可以試咗呢2隻先囉. 都唔洗話一次過試晒咁多隻既. GLYCO FLEXII 我自己2隻貓貓都食咗2年幾, 都冇BLADDER 既問題出現, 同埋呢你盡量俾多啲水貓貓飲, 咁就冇咁易有晶石出現架喇。 若然你隻貓貓食SYNOQUIN反應好既, 咁唔需要take Glyco Flex 喇, 因為都係相類似既產品.. 唔好重複喇. 多食未必一定有益既..

若然你隻貓貓行路冇問題既, 我建議你俾一日一次又或者你可以只俾青口素佢食都應該OK架喇...
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 14:02

Thanks for ur advice doris …

Understand glyco flex and synoquin are the same thing … I want to try glyco flex II cos u said it has msm which is a pain killer … so, if synoquin not working well … I want to switch to glyco flex II … (my cat took synoquin for ard 2 weeks, situation is much the same but didn’t get worst)

the ingredients of 青口素 is diff from synoquin OR glyco flex … but both are good to soft bones, right … … !?

1st cat (crystal/stone history) : walking problem -> synoquin twice per day
2nd cat (crystal/stone history) : abnormal nails / bone “chi” on his back bone -> synoquin once a day OR 青口素 once per day
3rd cat (sensitive tummy and can’t take wet food) : don’t have obvious bone problem but 吊手 occasionally -> glyco flex I (snack) OR 青口素

All of them are 10 yrs old …
Is my above approach correct ?

Many thanks again and sorry for so many q …
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-27 14:11

貓貓十歲既係老年架喇, 就算冇遺傳病都係時候俾啲補助關節既SUPPLEMENT 佢哋食. 因為年紀大咗, 鈣質同埋軟骨都會流失, 都要做吓保健囉.. 冇遺傳病既你就俾青口素佢哋食就OK喇.
我會建議你有遺傳病既貓貓(1st Cat)除咗Synoquin 都俾埋青口素, 青口素有助軟骨生長既原素嚟, 所以對患骨骼遺傳病既貓貓都好有幫助.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 14:21     標題: 回復 48# 的帖子

thanks for ur prompt reply ...

icic ... so, adding synoquin + 青口素 together in his wet food ... taste ok ??! hehe ...

however, for the 3rd cat, he can't take wet food ... v easy to get diarrhea for him ... a bit hard to give him supplement ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-27 15:20

引用:
原帖由 melbby 於 2011-5-27 14:21 發表
thanks for ur prompt reply ...

icic ... so, adding synoquin + 青口素 together in his wet food ... taste ok ??! hehe ...

however, for the 3rd cat, he can't take wet food ... v easy to get diarr ...
青口素係粉狀, 你可以用少少水開咗佢, 用針筒餵佢.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 15:26     標題: 回復 50# 的帖子

haha ... must scared him ... as when he saw me using 針筒 to feed water to the other 2 cats ... he disappeared at once ... anyway, i'll try try ... it has any taste that cats will like ?

will u have glyco flex I later ... i always think it will taste better than 青口素 ... ?? hehe ...

however, 青口素seems reasonable $ as compare to synoquin ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-27 16:31

呢隻青口素我未試過, 不過相信味道不大的.  咁我哋啲青口素自己訂返嚟, 同埋我哋宗旨係平價賣俾大家, 都係收取少少手續費當作營運成本及用作推廣基金.. 所以一定會平過係VET 度買既SUPPLEMENT 既.   GLYCO FLEX I 既小食冇訂返嚟呀, 只有GLYCO FLEX II 小食裝.. 訂咗小量貨, 應該2個WEEK 內會返既. 咁呢隻小食當然會吸引過青口素啦. 話明小食裝.. 但佢同青口素有唔同架喎, 成份有啲份別架.
作者: stevielck    時間: 2011-5-27 16:56

隻青口素味道應該OK既, 我會撈落D貓餅度而我隻家家日日食完都會舔乾淨個兜c~~55~~
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 17:02     標題: 回復 52# 的帖子

icic ... agree 收取少少手續費當作營運成本!!

however, for the cat without walking problem ... as u said, no need to take GLYCO FLEX II ...

anyway, see if he's ok with 青口素 otherwise, glyco flex I when u have group order later ...

thanks a lot.
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-27 17:48

冇大問題既唔洗食GLYCO FLEX 喇... 我成日都同大家講, 貓哋冇事既係唔需要俾SUPPLEMENT既. 唔好話諗住補定.. 冇病即係代表佢身體冇呢個需要, 你俾多咗啲營養佢唔代表係好架.. ^^
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 18:52     標題: 回復 53# 的帖子

Ic ... Sprinkle on dry food also ok ?! I will try try ... Thanks !!
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-27 19:47     標題: 回復 55# 的帖子

Okok ...

Then, if no walking problem ... Try try 青口素 first ...

Thanks !!
作者: 小小小特警    時間: 2011-5-27 23:57

青口素D味OK既,我隻囡都接受到,我都係放埋係濕乾到俾佢食,無扭計唔食羅!

至於GLYCO FLEX 簡直係個囡的"飛弗",見到我拿裝住GLYCO FLEX 個鞋盒,未成包拿出黎,個囡坐到幾遠都會走過來食架!!c~~42~~
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-28 13:16     標題: 回復 58# 的帖子

Icic ... So attractive ...

I only giving synoquin now ... however, sometimes they are not interested (with wet food) ... So, wanna give glyco flex to the one which hv walking problem ...

He is not moving much now ... Maybe he is not eating the exact dosage for the synoquin ... (he has no mood to eat sometimes ...)
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-31 11:58

Hi doris,

Happy to see ur glyco flex group order …

I have checked their ingredients …
Glyco flex II contains what synoquin (glucosamine) & 青口素 have, together with MSM to kill pain … that sounds good !!

Since I have ordered the 青口素 with u, I’m thinking if 青口素 + synoquin will much the same as what glycol flex got (except MSM)
Am I right ?

For my cat who has walking problem, he’s taking synoquin am/pm with wet food (for 2 weeks), however, he’s not interested to eat in AM lately but only eat in pm
So, I think he’s not taking enough for the initial dosage (twice a day) … so, his problem is still the same … move less …

So, do u think he should either take 青口素 + synoquin ? OR glyco flex II only ? or what kind of combination ?

Many many thanks …
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-31 14:24

咁你不如試吓glyco flex ii 啦, 俾佢就唔洗俾synoquin 架喇.. 起碼glyco flex  ii 小食裝真係大部份貓會主動爭食架.. combination 可以咁. 一粒glyco flex 加青口素.. 又或者only 2粒glyco flex ii .
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-31 14:39     標題: 回復 61# 的帖子

thanks doris

so, u keep giving ur cats 2 pieces every day for the glyco flex II snack ...
then, really need to stock up as it's not common in hk ...
作者: doriswong    時間: 2011-5-31 14:49

我自己就俾一粒青口素加一粒GLYCO FLEX II everyday. 我哋唔係成日搞團購, 約3-4個月一次, 所以最好訂定幾個月既存貨.
作者: melbby    時間: 2011-5-31 14:59     標題: 回復 63# 的帖子

icic ...

for 青口素, u'll give one capsule right away or according to their weight (i saw u stated 5-10lb cats -> half capsule 250mg)

thanks ...




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